How many Trump supporters really believe the election was rigged?, with Tom Pepinsky

A talk with political scientist Thomas Pepinsky (, who wrote a piece entitled “Life in authoritarian states is mostly boring and tolerable,” which examined what the end of democracy would probably look like in America. Topics discussed include: What can we deduce from U.S. surveys that show high distrust in elections? How much do people who say such things on surveys really believe that elections were rigged? If Trump had succeeded in overturning the 2020 election, what would life in the U.S. be like? What are lessons from other countries that can help us understand what democracy backsliding would be like for us?

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